PieFedUbuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout The Next Year
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Just as long as it is local AI and optional. If I’m gonna have to connect my Ubuntu devices to some datacenter just for slop I didn’t ask for, I’m switching again
You should switch anyways. Ubuntu is corpo slop pushing their own close source software. Use debian if you want something just as boring and stable that just works.
HuudaHarkitenI’ll second what /u/unexposedhazard said. Switch anyway. I kept Ubuntu for a long time because I thought it was the easy option.. Changed to Debian at the beginning of the year and my god its so much better and not at all more difficult than Ubuntu.
Linux Mint may be for you. It’s literally Ubuntu stripped of Canonical’s crap, and I expect they’ll make the AI stuff something you have to explicitly install if you want it. They already did that with Snaps, for example.
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Seems like it could go there, but for now i believe this is primarily for the corporate and commercial customers. They rightfully need to keep up with or exceed their competitors. The aspect that decides if they are turning into Windows is how they implement, not what they implement.
Nobody actually using computer systems in corporate environments wanted AI in the first place.
This is just pandering to executives who are paid entirely too much.
Their competitors are on a rocket propelled ride to the dumps. If they want to exceed them, they need only release security fixes and nothing else.
What they’re doing instead is trying to out-garbage them, which is impossible. Everybody got a plan to out-garbage Microsoft til they get Windows 11ed in the face.
Yeah, see this is why I went with Linux Mint Debian Edition instead of Ubuntu-flavored Linux Mint. I know the Mint guys strip out most of the less-desirable stuff that ships with Ubuntu, but at that point you may as well have just started with Debian. Seems easier to go forward from straight Debian instead of working backwards from a slopified Debian-based distro.
Canonical is just another shitty corpo using FOSS to masquerade as a “good guy”.
A Sharky AnthroEww, like no thank you Canonical. I think Garuda Linux is going to be my new default distro! Ubuntu is not it for me anymore, their direction towards becoming Microslop-lite is simply bothersome.
Various AI features for Ubuntu Linux are expected to land over the next year with a bias on local inferencing by default. Canonical engineers will be working on integrating agentic workflows into Ubuntu for those that want it. There are areas being explored for AI use on Ubuntu both for the desktop as well as for Ubuntu servers such as for assisting in interpreting system logs
Sounds actually reasonable. As long as it doesn’t get shoved down the users throat it could turn out fine. And sifting through logs is in fact a good task for LLMs in my opinion.
This is a carefully crafted press release. But canonical has been looking for a business model for a long time. I wonder if this won’t turn out like windows 11 (buy copilot buy copilot buy copilot everywhere)
But yea if they do what they say here it’s not bad.
As long as it doesn’t get shoved down the users throat
Ubuntu doesn’t have a great track record in that regard.
RhaedasThe key is how they introduce it. How many Ubuntu users (who are usually novice in Linux) read through an update notice? I’m guilty of just scanning through it. A vaguely named new thing isn’t going to be unchecked.
I like Ubuntu’s “feel” vs. others. I can’t explain what that is, just know I test ran a few before I settled on it. I’m slowly weaning off Snap though, mainly because I’ve had many things be so out of date it made sense to go Flakpak or just find a .deb file. And Snap is obviously bloat if you watch what’s using CPU and mem regularly.
I’ve also used some LLMs to diagnose computer issues, so I can see how a local version that walks through such thing would be helpful.
I’ll give them rope, and I can always bounce to Mint if it gets too in my face.
How many Ubuntu users (who are usually novice in Linux)
Don’t be so sure of that. I used to use Gentoo 20 years ago. I use Kubuntu today. Why? Because I don’t care anymore and just want something that works with minimal effort.
The last time I reinstalled my OS, about a year ago, it was because I replaced the SSD. The time before that was seven(?) years earlier, when I built the system in the first place.
Snaps mildly annoy me though, so I might change. Eventually, after probably several more years.
I bet there are more people like me (long-time users picking boring, “basic” distros) than you think. We just aren’t usually very conspicuous compared to the “I use Arch BTW” crowd who are new enough that they still feel the need to make distro choice part of their identity.
Boomer Humor DoomergodThe one thing I don’t mind an LLM doing is sifting through logs and metrics to find patterns and flag anomalies.
Yes. Like most things, genAI is not evil. It is now it is used (or made available) that makes it evil.
I’m on board with making it easy to use and integrate GenAI as long as I have full control of which model I use and how it is used and there are no behind the curtain shenanigans.
czarcasmAs if Snap wasn’t enough crap now we are on the AI scam. Just get a job at Micro$lop already you idiots.
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What was that joke about Firefox again? “We’re the browser beloved for being the only one not hitting our dick with a hammer. Now, you’re probably wondering why we brought this hammer and and took out our dick. Well you see…”
More seriously, I think until the bubble pops, writing “AI” anywhere is a way for companies to attract fundings, and that money is too easy for many to pass.
That’s why I tend to trust community managed distros over corpo ones. I don’t see Arch or Debian pulling this bullshit.
Tho, I’d still be suspicious of the other big private company, Redhat; which is very involved in maintaining Systemd.
Honestly, if it comes to this I’ll distro-hop as far as I need to escape AI.
Red Hat has been all over AI for a while
https://www.redhat.com/en/products/ai
Also they have been collaborating with the US and Israel to kill people on wars for some time
Hosting LLMs is different from pushing AI crap down end users’ throats Copilot style.
That feels a lot like “War profiteers aren’t guilty of shooting the gun”.
Love my Fedora Atomic Cosmic, but absolutely we all be watching to see where they go, and if needed will play the distro-hop game in attempt to stay in the AI free zone
NixOS is whatever distro you want it to be. (As long as you learn Nix…)
Private companies are fine as long as they are run be sensible people.
The issue with Canonical is that they have been shit for a long time. They are being proped up by Microsoft and a legacy that ended 15 years ago.
I think there’ll always be an issue depending on how dependent a project is on a company. Because the main risk isn’t that some bumbleling idiot of a CEO will run the projects and his company to the ground, but that sensible people will take decisions that serve their own interests, but not the interests of users.
Free software creates a framework wherein companies may have an interest in the success of a project and contribute to it. This is a good thing, insofar that to companies, the project is just a tool that needs to work well and to the programmers, the company is just one of several contributors.
In a community driven project, those who take decisions are the programmers who directly contribute to it and who are also usually users. Their interests are closer to those of all other end users. They want the project to work, and that may also be what financial contributors want.
However, if the software is a product of the company, they’ll intend to extract value from it directly. The interest of shareholders will supercede those of programmers and end users. That is why they may take decisions that are bad from a user’s perspective, not because their dumb, but because they have other interests in mind.
Inserting adds is a good way to get fundings from add companies at the detriment of users.
Adding suscription tiers is a good way to extract wealth from part of the users. Adding AI is a good way to secure loans from banks that speculate on the AI bubble, and maybe even from companies like Nvidia, interested in making the bubble last and grow.
It’s not a matter of being sensible or not, it’s a matter of whose interest you’re sensibly serving.
Not all companies are chasing short term profit
In a healthy environment companies work to maintain a healthy customer base. Competition is what drives innovation and keeps companies well behaved.
This is going to be all about how they implement it imo. There was a specific line in that article “for those who want it”, if they go for an opt-in approach which only then installs the AI capabilities, then yeah okay I don’t mind as an end-user.
If however Canonical implement AI into Ubuntu without being opt-in, then I’m out and never turning back.
Based on what they did with snap I wouldn’t hold your breath
Not like we need more reasons to not use Ubuntu.
When Ubuntu was just appearing I was using Debian. People laughed at me, saying I am a little bit slowpoke. Now it looks like Ubuntu is starting to die, applying strange decisions. I still use Debian. Well…
Why are you offended being called a slowpoke using slowpoke OS?
I use it on my server because of this reason
Its been dead according to linux purists since 2011 when they went to Unity over Gnome or KDE so ignore them :P
Ubuntu was easier to use out of the box, especially for some hardware like Nvidia hardware in example. Also the software from its repository and the Kernel is not updated nearly as often as Ubuntu. All of this makes it harder to use for Gaming oriented people. Back then Debian users laughed at me (Ubuntu user back then) for using a “toy” distribution. But Debian was not a good option for me back then.
My point is, it does not matter if someone laughs at you. Just use the best option for you.
Problem is when people don’t use what option is best for them and make everything worse for the people who are then asked to help them (or even worse are completely unrelated and have to bear the burden anyway). There are fundamental problems how Canonical distributes security fixes (many locked behind Ubuntu Pro which is free for personal use but still requires signing up for it) and these problems are inherited by Ubuntu remixes like Mint and popOS.
You’re probably not the gaming type, I presume.
I prefer playing games, not with OS.
I’ve been gaming on Debian stable for 6-7 years now; works great.
If you’re playing modern games that just released, they often need the newest graphics drivers to run well and look right. It also helps to have the most modern version of apps like Heroic Games Launcher and stuff, but Flatpak has solved that somewhat.
If anyone here games a lot, I’d recommend a more rolling release distro (or the version of Debian that updates packages quickly, forgot its name).
I’ve never had that be an issue in practice. The NV DC drivers cover this need quite well IME: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
It’s also the best route I’ve found for setting up CUDA, so two birds, one stone.
I game on Debian unstable daily. I don’t have the newest hardware but most things work about as well as Windows
debian gamer here. Things suck because I have a non-muxing, bullshit on board graphics card not because of Debian. I have the same issues on Bazzite, Pika Os and Nobara
Does anyone use Ubuntu anynore?
They’ve been the evil distro since, what, a decade?
They put out LTS releases which are nice for a home server where you need relatively recent packages and a couple of years of support so that you don’t have to babysit it too much. On a server it’s much closer to Debian experience as you don’t have to deal with snap, flatpak and all that weirdness.
can’t pull Ubuntu away from all the plebs who think it’s the best OS in the world.
meh, at least it’s not Microsoft. not much better, but still slightly better.
You’d be surprised
The enshittification og Ubuntu and Firefox these last years have been tragic to watch, even though i no longer use any of them.
Librewolf has done a great job and has a strong stance on disabling/removing AI pieces
But yeah, it’s just sad to always be fighting against the tide
Kudos to its little brother, Ironfox.
At least Firefox recently got a 1-click “AI off” button. I’d prefer if Mozilla concentrated on the rendering engine first and foremost but that 1-click solution isn’t so bad. So at least there’s that.
I’ll stop looking for alternatives when it becomes a one click AI on button instead.
Problem is that well maintained alternatives without that shit don’t exist. Sure, there are Chromium and Firefox forks that strip all that shit but are you really willing to trust you data security with a fork created by two dudes in their free time to deliver updates the same day as their upstream projects? I’m not. So I rather use Firefox, turn that shit off manually and continue to hope that Servo will be good enough in two years (doubtful).
Yup, that’s why I’m still looking.
I think the best current candidate is WebKit-GTK but here’s the looking bit again: I’m looking for a WebKit-GTK browser that adopts traditional cross-desktop UX and not GNOME header bars.
Okay Okay, I’ll find a new go to distro.
Why not use Debian?
See also the dick-inna-mousetrap thread. https://retro.social/@ifixcoinops/112847682153491798
Wow I did not expect that much dedication put into that thread
it’s pretty legendary
That would make some good reality tv
All I really want related to AI in my OS is:
God i dont miss ubuntu and the choice to walk away is even more apparent to have been a good idea.
(laughs in void)
https://lemmy.world/post/46121131?scrollToComments=true
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-future-of-ai-in-ubuntu/81130
Context from the horse’s mouth. The goals seem fine. They might botch the execution as ubuntu has before, but the stated goals seem sensible.
How will this affect Mint OS?
Maybe more people will just run the Debian Edition
Didn’t hey start putting ads into their start menu, search results, or something? This is not really a surprise given that trajectory.
The only ads I notice is that apt shows how many packages can be updated through an optional paid Expanded Security Maintenance. This isn’t very obtrusive but I’m on a 4 year old LTS release currently so things might have changed.
He’s remembering things from Ubuntu 12.10, yeah 14 years ago :)
Oh wow, you’re right! That’s when I quit Ubuntu. I feel fucking old now…
I used Ubuntu back then too but I’m a Gnome person so I missed out on this innovation from Canonical.
I was remembering my Ubuntu Unity days which apparently ended in 2012 or so. Didn’t realise it was so long ago.
Ubuntu might’ve had ads in the OS even before Microslop. Who knows, maybe they even gave them the idea.
Receiving updates for anything in Universe requires Ubuntu Pro which is free for home users but still requires signing up to give you access to that update repository and once you sign up, they can match your account with what you install/update, so there is server-side tracking. In theory there is the possibility of community-maintained updates there but that required adhering to Canonical’s draconian version freeze rules. Something Fedora and its derivates do not have to that degree (during a release cycle any update is fine if it doesn’t break compatibility).